Having survived one of the most tumultuous periods in the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra’s history, ASO President and Chief Executive Officer Stanley Romanstein said he is optimistic for the orchestra’s future and intends to move forward with plans to build a new, state-of-the-art symphony hall.
“We’re very committed to a new performance space,” Romanstein said. “Symphony Hall opened in 1968 and it is technically deficient and outdated. We need to provide the audience with the kind of experience they deserve.”
That news emerged from a wide-ranging interview in which Romanstein discussed the orchestra’s financial difficulties, the decision to replace three of its top leaders in a major management shakeup, and his long-range plans for its future.
The ASO raised about $100 million in donations to build a $300 million new hall, designed by famed Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava, on 14th Street between Peachtree and West Peachtree streets. The project stalled when $100 million in anticipated state and local funding didn’t come through.
In 2009, the Woodruff Arts Center, the ASO’s parent organization, switched gears and approved a master plan to locate a new symphony hall at the corner of Peachtree and 15th streets. By then, the annual deficit, which has totaled nearly $20 million in accumulated debt, dominated the orchestra’s attention.
The orchestra erased about half of its projected $5 million deficit for this fiscal year through major contract concessions from its musicians after a four-week lockout in August and September. The two-year contract that the musicians accepted included a total of $5.2 million in salary concessions, an average pay cut of about 16 percent for each. The size of the orchestra fell from 93 to 88. Under the terms of the deal, the ASO will go from a 52-week orchestra to 41 weeks this season and 42 weeks in the second year. According to the musicians, it’s been 31 years since the ASO didn’t play a full 52-week year.
The shortened schedule dropped Atlanta’s orchestra from the symphony world’s major leagues, as defined by performing a full-time schedule.
“The huge sacrifice we made has to be followed up by moves from management,” Daniel Laufer, the cellist who is president of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra Players Association, said last week. “The next two years is a critical period to stabilize the institution and do a course correction. We’d like to get the orchestra back to major-league status.”
The first move was to shed some top management and its salaries. Romanstein announced last week that Donald Fox, executive vice president for business operations and chief financial officer for nine years, and Charles Wade, vice president of marketing for 15 years, were leaving their positions. In addition, John Sparrow, the ASO’s general manager and vice president of orchestra initiatives, left to pursue other interests. (Disclosure: Fox is the brother-in-law of ArtsATL Executive Director Catherine Fox.)
Sparrow’s departure was a big loss in the eyes of the musicians. “Until very recently, we had a very good working relationship with management, and John had a lot to do with that,” Laufer said.
Laufer noted that Fox was also in charge of overseeing operations of the Verizon Amphitheater at Encore Park and a telemarketing firm the ASO owns. “A lot of us feel someone has to be held responsible for the operation of Verizon and its underperformance,” Laufer said. “Charles is well thought of in his field. They’re probably looking for a new direction in marketing, and it will be interesting to see what it means moving forward.”
To help generate more money, the ASO purchased a profitable telemarketing firm in 2004 and then opened the Verizon Wireless Amplitheatre in 2008. “They were both designed to increase revenue and to stem deficits,” Romanstein said. “We tried to solve all our problems by looking at the revenue side. Revenue has become more limited, and we had to look at our staffing.”
The ASO did not respond to follow-up questions regarding the financial health of Verizon and whether the facility has met financial expectations. According to Variety, the concert business in general began to slump in 2009 and worsened in 2010, declining 12 percent from 2009. Verizon was nominated as Best Major Outdoor Venue by Pollstar in three of the past four years, and last year it was ranked 14th in terms of amphitheater attendance worldwide.
Susan Ambo, who was the ASO’s vice president of finance, has taken over the finance department. Julie Fish, who was the senior director of operations, is now the symphony’s operations and general manager. And David Paule, a former marketing director at Delta Air Lines who was the ASO’s senior director for development, became the new director of marketing. They began their new roles November 11.
The moves have not come without criticism. Ferdinand Levy, a retired professor of management economics at Georgia Tech and a longtime ASO patron, wonders why it took the orchestra more than 10 years to “clean house” even as it was amassing annual deficits. Levy said Romanstein’s mandate when he was hired in 2010 was to reduce the deficit and develop a larger audience.
“The methods he and the ASO Board must have decided upon is to squeeze both the size and the salaries of one of Atlanta’s premier arts organizations, and to chop off the heads of departments and promote their subordinates,” Levy wrote in a letter to Jim Abrahamson, chairman of the ASO’s board of directors. “That’s no way to enhance Atlanta’s reputation as a haven for superb musical arts and develop a larger audience.”
Levy also said that replacing the number one person in an organization with the number two person may be a good way to reduce costs but is not efficient. “You don’t promote juniors to the most senior positions in a department when the department hasn’t done well and the senior has been let go,” he wrote.
Romanstein said the decision to promote new leadership from within was made after consulting with the ASO board members, the Woodruff and community leaders.
“We’re in great shape as far as the artistic side,” he said. “We want to make sure the business side is equally equipped. The people who have left, we’re not pointing fingers; they’ve done incredible work. Sometimes you need new ideas and new energy. The new team in place is very enthusiastic.”
Romanstein said the first order of business is to work within a balanced budget and to chip away at an accumulated debt estimated to reach nearly $20 million by the end of the fiscal year. “The last time we had a balanced budget was in 2001,” he said.
In December, the ASO will launch a strategic planning process to create a road map for the next three to five years. Romanstein said the musicians will have a voice, along with the orchestra staff and board and the community at large. And part of that process will involve a new symphony hall.
“We’ve wrestled with the issue of when to move forward with the hall,” he said. “What I’ve heard is we have to get our finances in order first. Then we’ll turn our attention to a new hall.”
He said he doesn’t want to second-guess decisions that were made before he took the ASO position two years ago. He said that some of the orchestra’s financial problems stem from being handicapped by its current home in the Woodruff Arts Center. He believes that a new, state-of-the-art symphony hall will draw a larger audience.
“We have the smallest symphony hall of any major American orchestra,” Romanstein said. “We have fewer tickets we can sell; we have only 1,700 seats. And given the market in Atlanta, we can’t double the price of tickets.”
Levy, however, believes that a new facility isn’t the answer. “A new building is not a panacea. It’s what’s inside the building that matters,” he said.
An equally complex issue will be how to heal the rift between ASO management and the musicians that was caused by the lockout and contract concessions the musicians felt forced to accept.
Laufer said the musicians are determined not to allow their unhappiness with the contract to affect their performances. “A lot of damage was done to the ASO as an institution,” he said. “We are a high-caliber orchestra, and when we stepped back on stage, our responsibility was to do our best and try to maintain that status.”
Members of the ASO chorus produced black T-shirts with the phrase “The Music Is Ongoing” on the front, a play on the phrase “negotiations are ongoing” from the contract dispute. The chorus and orchestra now wear them at every dress rehearsal, including that for their October 20 concert at Carnegie Hall.
Before the dress rehearsal, incoming ASO board Chairwoman Karole Lloyd addressed the musicians and invited them to a board reception afterward. As first reported by Norman Lebrecht on the “Slipped Disc” blog, the musicians did not attend. Instead, Laufer and another ASO musician made a brief appearance to explain that the musicians would not be at the reception.
“It was obviously a last-minute invitation, and many people already had plans for the evening,” Laufer said. “It caught the orchestra off guard, yes. But I give her credit for reaching out to us and trying to repair the communications. That’s important.”
After the dress rehearsal, Romanstein was backstage in a hallway, waiting to speak with ASO Music Director Robert Spano, and the entire orchestra had to walk past him. Romanstein received a chilly reception from the musicians. “No one had really seen Stanley since negotiations had concluded,” Laufer said. “People have strong feelings, and seeing him, they had a reaction to that.”
Romanstein said he understands that the musicians feel frustrated and angry. “I have great admiration for them,” he said. “They deliver great music every week and are consummate professionals. The healing process will come when we deliver success to them, and the restructuring is designed to do just that, to make sure that we honor their dedication.”
One thing all sides agree on is that the orchestra has not been marketed strongly enough.
“There’s an old saying: it’s about location, location, location,” Levy said in an interview. “For the ASO, it’s about marketing, marketing, marketing. They need creativity in marketing and have certainly lacked that in the last 10 or 15 years.”
“We have to listen, ask the community what they want from us,” Romanstein said. “We have to become more effective storytellers about the difference we’re making in the lives of the community, that the ASO is good for business in Atlanta and essential to the cultural environment.”
Selling that story will be even more important once the orchestra renews its push for a new symphony hall. The state may be willing to invest $300 million in a new football stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, but Georgia ranks 49th nationally in government support for the arts.
“Money is an expression of value,” Romanstein said. “We rank at the bottom in public support for the arts. We need to make a compelling case about what the arts bring to us and why it’s critical to invest in the arts.”
Laufer hopes that investment will help restore the ASO to what it was, a full-time orchestra with salary levels that make it competitive in attracting and retaining high-quality musicians. “If you continue to cut into the program you’re trying to sell, you’re doing yourself a disservice,” the cellist said. “There needs to be accountability. That’s very critical now.”
Romanstein would not comment on the chances of returning to a 52-week season in the future. “The orchestra is deeply committed and deeply rooted to the community,” he said. “We’ll find our place on how often we should play and where we should play.”

















COMMENTS
For the record, the ASO will NOT be building the hall designed by Santiago Calatrava, which had the roof feature, though it was not retractable. If a new hall is to be built, it will be on a different site and would have to be redesigned.
Touching on several points here: As much as I appreciate the musicianship of the ASO players I will not be making any further financial contributions to Stanley’s agenda. What orchestra needs a retractable roof on their concert hall over the performance space? It’s an arts venue not a sporting arena! The design is rubbish and that’s why funding fell through the first time. Once that fool “pursues other interests” I will consider “upping contributions”. Like it or lump it Stanley is the root of the current ASO public image and marketing crisis. Oh and I seriously doubt the three gentlemen who left the organization did so without a significant severance package. I’m just saying….. Cheers!
I’m sorry, but building a new hall is the LAST thing that should be happening right now. Whoever Romanstein is reporting to must not have a clue. The music is what matters…nothing else, and that is going to suffer as long as the attitude in management is to slash away at the musicians. I’m glad to see that some cut backs in management have happened, but the real adjustment needs to be in attitude. This management really doesn’t seem to understand that they are dealing with world class talent who can always get jobs elsewhere, and then they will also be out of work. They really need to wake up, shore up the finances, get the salaries and benefits of the musicians back where they belong, and THEN maybe think about a new hall.
Personally, I don’t see how a new hall, in an effort to fill more seats, is going to solve any problem when the November 2 and 16 concerts had so many empty seats. Friday night concerts barely filling half the house one night, and plenty of empty seats for an extremely popular piece the other, do not indicate the need for a bigger hall to me.
No, before committing money that doesn’t exist to such a project, other things need to be fixed. Specifically, the organization needs to quit generating so much animosity toward itself. Making the news for rejecting high school choirs due to lack of diversity, and screwing over the primary resource as a way to mend bad management does nothing to make us want to contribute or buy more tickets.
It’s a travesty to give this guy so much free hot air. I guess the site has to rely on ads from them… This orchestra admin is so out of touch with Atlanta, and so wrong in all its market calculations, and all indications from this article are that it will continue in the same path in the future. The orchestra will not flourish until it finds and new sponsor and a way to get out from under the WAC umbrella.
If I were interested in a road to recovery to heal old wounds, I would first and foremost be trying to restore to the musicians what was forced from them at gunpoint: their major- league status as a 52- week season orchestra. And if I were Dr. Romanstein, I would tread very carefully when discussing bold new projects such as a new hall when he has not even mentioned working to raise the funds necessary to give back some of the huge financial concessions he took from the musicians; not to mention he is apparently not even on speaking terms with some of them. He puts on a lovely front to the camera for our city, but seems to have left quite a shambles in his wake, all of which is simmering backstage.
Brighton, I’d be happy to attend a concert with works by Carter and Wuorinen, but I suspect you, and I, would have our choice of seats. (And I don’t think the orchestras in Chicago, Cleveland, and Boston are presenting such programming either.) I do have to take issue, respectfully, with the notion that I would hold my contribution until they offer more adventurous programming; I believe the cause and effect relationship is the other way around. If contributed income increases significantly, the ASO then has the financial freedom to offer less familiar works.
That said, the ASO has a tradition of offering new work, under Robert Shaw and Louis Lane, and more recently under Spano and Runnicles. It’s true that if one’s definition of worthwhile new music is limited to the more dissonant variety, Spano’s preference for more melodic pieces may be less satisfying, but plenty of other cities would love to have our programming in recent years of work by living composers.
This season seems to have a bit less new work than recent seasons, but looking over the schedule I find I’m looking forward to:
-the Gandolfi Concerto for Clarinet and Strings (with the ASO’s wonderful Laura Ardan soloing in this world premiere)
-a program in April with premieres by Marcus Roberts and Michael Kurth, and a repeat performance by a Theofanidis work the orchestra recorded a few years ago (music by Bernstein is the “old classic” on that program)
-Jean-Yves Thibaudet playing James MacMillan’s Piano Concerto #3
-and while none of them are living composers, i am impatient for a Runnicles-led program in May of works by Messiaen, Debussy, and Duruflé.
Sounds worth supporting to me.
I am sceptical about a new hall needing to have much more in the way of seats, but a new acoustically superior hall is an important civic goal.
kudos on the in-depth reporting on this, once again. one caveat, and it’s a huge one: if this piece had been handed to me on the edit desk, I would have struck the word “survived” faster that I could take my next breath. Many, many folks – both in the ASO and arts enthusiasts looking in at the debacle – would not characterize Stanley Romanstein as a “survivor” of the negotiations. That is way too charged a word when many feel it is the symphony players who have been shafted. Agree wholeheartedly with PBJ above – those who care should step forward and not quibble with programming. they are SUPERB musicians, which is – newsflash – the point.
BPJ is right. We live in a state full of rubes. The reason Chicago, Cleveland and Boston have great orchestras is that there has always been a core of wealthy patron families devoted to keeping the arts funded in those cities. As far as a new hall with more seats is concerned, that’s nonsense – large-ish concert halls in Gwinnett and Cobb are readily available for extra concerts if the issue is generating more paying audience. I think the real issue is probably somebody’s kickback on a huge bank loan and construction contract.
And BPJ, I would pony up more money if they started programming more interesting music. We just mourned Elliott Carter, America’s #1 composer, with weeks of commemorations, but I’ve never seen any of his music programmed at Woodruff, nor will I ever. Stravinsky’s Sacre de Printemps is 100 years old today – I think we can stop calling it “new music,” along with Debussy, Bartok and Copland. You want to generate buzz, program Wuorinen’s Bamboula Squared, or Carter’s magnificent Cello Concerto.
I disagree with Prof. Levy. No one is calling a new concert hall a “panacea”. It is just a necessity. Acoustics matter with orchestras. While the current hall isn’t terrible, it has the worst acoustics of any of the 20 best orchestras. (And yes, it is still one of the best, if what I heard Sunday afternoon is any indication.)
The solution for the symphony’s financial future does not lie with further cuts, and there is only limited room for more earned income growth; the answer lies in significantly increased contributed income (which is what they did recently in Dallas). Those of us who care about the orchestra should consider upping our contributions.